They are without question trying to isolate their chat people from more experienced paranormal researchers. That was my first thought anyway until I found out they are kicking others out who came to their chat for help. People asking legitimate questions, as I had are being kicked out without reason or legitimate explanation.
I've never seen such hostility in a paranormal chat site. Non professionals in a chat area should be thrilled to have an experienced paranormal investigator in the chat so they can ask questions and tell their story. A chat host should be thrilled to have an experienced investigator visit their site and they should tell everyone for their own benefit. You are only exploited if you choose to be. You are only a victim if you choose to be. Paranormal chat areas are for sharing your paranormal stories so share them and enjoy the fellowship.
I can tell you if you go to a chat area where experienced paranormal investigators frequent you won't be treated badly. So click on the link to Ghost Research and check out their chat forums. I think you will receive a pleasant reception.
We have never charged anyone for doing a paranormal investigation. Our purpose in this subject area is to learn and to help other people to understand the paranormal. Though it would be nice to pay the expenses we have never broken even on any investigation and we do not do paranormal investigations to make a profit.
I'm not the only one who's been banned from ghostchatter.com for no good reason. I've been cruising the web forums and finding others who have a sad story to tell about ghostchatter.com. Check out what this poor person said.
Banned from Ghostchatter.com AGAIN!
"Apparently when a newbie gets online they must share a story. We CANNOT ask questions until they are finished. I asked a question before they were finished. I was banned!!! Geez! It sounds lame, but I feel bad about it--it's like being kicked outta the chess club when I can't play chess!! "
I'm so sorry they did this and apparently they do it to a lot of innocent people who come asking for help. If anyone needing help with a paranormal question just E-mail's me I will do what I can to either answer their question or connect them with someone who can.
If you've had a bad experience on ghostchatter.com or any other paranormal chat website I would like to hear your story. Please e-mail me at spooky-places(at)swbell.net Please change the (at) to "@" to send us the message.
Thanks.
Bryon Smith
Since I opened this page more and more people have been writing me telling me of their experiences at ghostchatter.com. The following is a message from one of those people and a response to that message.
More people are contacting me telling me of their ordeals on Ghost Chatter. It seems it never ends over there.
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I am so glad you'll consider putting what I have to say on your web page. I got booted out for no good reason. Here's what happened.
I logged into GC chatroom as usual and a page popped up with a nasty garbage can with an arrow pointing inside it saying "you are here". Okay, first of all, I do NOT like being referred to in any shape, form or fashion as TRASH! I am NOT trash and I found this highly offensive, way more offensive than anything I said in the chatroom. So I wrote to find out what I did and here's what I did. I had went into the room and someone was talking about his parents may be addicted to narcotic pain medication. I asked if I could help because I had first-hand knowledge of it. Well, apparently that offended someone in the group because she claims she got many, many complaints from group members. First of all, I wasn't aware that it was a 13 year old kid but I don't know what I said that was so bad. He asked if they were anti-depressants and I said, no, but it does give people a false sense of well-being so some people are helped by these drugs, even though they are not specifically designed as an anti-depressant. That's all I said. Nothing more, nothing less. I was kicked out. No big deal, I don't care. I found another chatroom. Here's what I have the problem with.
A new person came in who was obviously mentally ill. She started threatening to call the police and all this stuff because she said he was abusing and neglecting his children because of letting them stay in a house with evil spirits. Then she went off saying that she "knew he was badly physically and sexually abused as a child", that she was a pyschologist and just knew he was. She was extremely rude and hateful to this man. I know she's not a psychologist and her claiming to "know" all these things about a member worried me. Then another time she said she was going to call the police on someone else's parents, that she had access to his information. She has spies in her room and one of the rules is we must participate but this man named Randy that's in there at set times every night, he rarely participates but has told me to shut up on a number of occasions. I think this woman is a fucking control freak and outright lies. She does not appear to have any paranormal things in her life. She has pets and by God if you offend one of them, you will be banned. She makes fun of members when they're not in the room. She plays with people's heads and is rude, mean and nasty. If one of her "pets" wants to talk off topic, that's fine but if anyone else does it, you get in trouble. I guess because I have had drug addiction problems in my family I wasn't "worthy" to be a part of her group. So I have this to say to the woman...
You think you know everything there is to now about spirits and hauntings but when new people come into the group, you suddenly get very, very quiet and don't open that big fat mouth of yours. The reason for that is because you don't know shit from shoes about the paranormal. You're a wannabe and so you listen and lurk to hear other people's experiences because you don't have any of your own. You live vicariously through the group members. I've never heard you say one thing about any of YOUR experiences and I'm assuming there's a reason for that. You said to one person that you were a psychologist or some bullshit lie and that you "knew he was badly abused as a child" even though he repeatedly told you that you were full of shit. You'll ban a person in a heartbeat for lying but I guess you think it's okay for your ass to lie. You're dangerous and mean. You're rude and I'm thankful that I got out of your group before you sucked the life right out of me. The only thing paranormal about you is that you're a psychic vampire. You suck the life out of everyone and everything about the group because you have no talents and no experiences with the paranormal. You bitch about people "exploiting" your group members but what do you think you're doing? You're the leech and you just don't want anyone else in taking over your territory. Someone else referred to you as a cunt and told you to fuck off! Good for them! I second both of those motions. Oh, and my advice to you is you'd better be careful who you offend. Some people might not take being called "trash" very kindly. When you're dealing with the paranormal, you're dealing with the unknown. You would know that if you yourself had any talents. I think it's jealousy that drives you. You're a psychic wannabe and YOU exploit your members, not anyone else. Besides, I haven't heard any stories that any true research team would be interested in.
If you don't want to put any of this on your website, that's fine. I guess I really just want her to know what a bitch I think she is and that I seriously doubt she has ever had anything paranormal happen to her. She's the leech and she's the one exploiting her group members. I know this is a little harsh and honestly, it's just nice to get this out of my system, lol. You're welcome to print any or all of it. There's a lot of other little things I've noticed about the group members that I'd be happy to share with you and your readers. I know for a fact that at least one active group member visits your site regularly just to see what people are saying about Genesta and the other group members. I'm encouraging her to go into other chatrooms as she is just the sweetest person I know. She's elderly and retired and goes in there to combat lonliness. She and I email regularly now because I broke the rules and gave her my email address.
I know this is rather long and I apologize but I was so infuriated at being referred to as trash that I just have to tell someone what a bitch this woman is! I could tell by her little remarks to me that she was just looking for a reason to ban me. Most of the members are so snobby and snotty but there are a few that are genuinely nice and wish I could invite them to this other group, the haunted zone, but I can't get in there to do it. I may sign up under a different name and go in there with the web address real quick so that other people will know there are alternatives to this shit of a group. When I emailed her I told her that my mistake in joining was thinking that her group was different from the other chatrooms you can find anywhere on the net but, as the saying goes, shit by any other name, still smells like shit. I doubt she's smart enough to get it but it felt really good to say it. I don't think she's intelligent enough to "get" sarcasm.
I do apologize for rattling on and on but I'm seriously pissed off about the "trash" reference. No wonder people who are banned don't email her to ask to rejoin. Had I given it any thought, I wouldn't have asked to be let back in but I didn't think of it in those terms until it just hit me that she's calling banned people trash. The nerve of that cunt!!! There are only about 8 regulars in the group and most that do join never come back in after their initial visit. Now I consider it a badge of honor to be kicked out. I was so hurt at first but then I got mad! Like I said, you can use any or all and feel free to edit it if you need to. My language is a little harsh but believe me, I held back. I'll also be happy to tell you all the other things that she's said and done but I don't want to make this email any longer cos I do want you to read it. I'll be more than happy to help you anytime with your website if you need any help. I've got a lot of free time on my hands now, lol. Take care and thank you for reading this and considering it to be added to your site...which I love, by the way. Great job!
Ghostly Yours,
Brenda Alexander
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At 11:27 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote:
Hello =)
Sure I have no problems with you posting my message on your site. I have to agree they have to suffer from sort of mental illness. Further more some one saying "It's a badge of honor to be booted" this is so very true. Just amazes me that some people don't have abilities or all knowledge of the paranormal world and when they seek questions there booted. I have seen that numerous times when I was there. It's quite sad that you run into to people such as them who are so cold-hearted.
Exactly right. I'm 55 years old and my ghostly encounters started in my own bedroom. I've been aware of ghosts for many years even though I was raised a Christian and most Christians don't believe in ghosts. They tend to think the moment a person dies they go straight to heaven or hell. I've learned a few things about that over the years because I ask questions and seek answers. I don't believe everything someone tells me and only believe about half of what I see because there are deceptive spirits and well intending people who want to help and don't know what their talking about.
I am aware and have witnessed the two angels who take people who are saved into the light. I am aware of little shadow things that drag some unsaved people into the underworld, I've seen them. I've talked to others who have seen them. I've been in the underworld and I've been to the great city of light while in the spirit with two of those angels. I'm just one of a few people who have been allowed to walk among the spirits and see what's going on out there and then return to life to tell people about it. That's why Vickie Gay wants me to give a presentation at the Universal Passing Over event. The rest of the time I'm like the rest of us, I am a sensitive but not a psychic medium and I'm looking for physical evidence that I can hand someone else to show them what I've learned while on the other side. You just can't walk up to people who don't know you and tell them you've been out there walking and flying among the spirits and seen what goes on without being really ridiculed and called a nut.
I tried to explain one time that I was a professional in what I do; granted the word professional means all sorts of things. I used it as a way saying I was quite knowledgeable in my field of work. I go ridiculed for saying no one is knowledgeable in this field. Stuff happens and you deal with it and go on. Further more saying the world of the paranormal is never the same it's always changing. Ok, I know this but I know how to investigate and be a medium. I don't need some one telling me how my "gift" is or how it should work. Course this was from one of Genesta's "followers" again. I got so much bad rap from it I had to remove the word professional from my profile. Even after doing so I still got a few people telling me I was no professional and couldn't know what I was doing all the time.
I've done the same thing talking about this subject and said I was a professional in the field but professional means someone gets paid for doing it. I have never been paid for ghost hunting but I have been paid for shooting video productions. So I am a professional videographer but I am not a professional ghost hunter. However the moment I begin selling Spooky Places videos of our ghost hunts I might get away with saying I am a professional ghost hunter. What I am is a very experienced ghost hunter. I can also testify that not all things that go bump in the night are ghosts, some of them are "other things" that never were human and some of them can take on human form to lead people to believe they are ghosts. The catch is that when Jesus died he went into the underworld and broke down the gates, the thing that held the souls captive down there. He took His people with him back through this physical plane and let the angels take them into the light to the waiting place there. Since the barrier between this world and the dead was opened those who might be kept there who are not in some way bound by the "things" there can return to walk the earth. As such we have ghosts of the dead as well as demons and other "things" that work with the demons, the little shadow things. I threw so many of those things out of this house while in the spirit over three months that I lost count. My story is out there on my website.
The truth is there are people out here hunting ghosts who are not professionals who are very experienced and knowledgeable about the subject. Vickie Gay is a professional psychic medium and she is also a ghost hunter who has an advantage because she can sense the ghosts and sometimes she can even see them. While in body I've seen visible orbs, at least I saw them they were visible to me. I've seen a few ghosts but not often and I've seen a full manifestation of a full sized shadow being standing not three feet from me here in the hallway in this house. Then it went down the hallway and vanished into our bedroom.
I shot fishing shows "The Great Outdoors with Barry Benton" and gospel singer Billy Dale Sexton "Sing America Sing" commercials and the dirt track races and more plays than I can count. I've been working in the video business for right at 20-21 years now.
If a person talks about their ghost hunting very long I can tell pretty quick just about how much they really know. I also know that people who want to think they know things when they don't do not like to be around people who actually do know what's going on in the world of the paranormal. That's what is going on with the ghostchatter.com people. They like to believe in the delusion that they know what they are talking about when they don't. There are people who get a euphoric high from the delusion and I believe this is what is happening over there. It is part of the mental illness that Genasity stuffers from. It is also somewhat contagious. Weaker minded people can literally catch it and feed upon it. Believe it or not manic depressives love the feeling they get from being on a serious low. They love feeling bad! The same thing happens to those who feed on the delusion, they get a feeling from it they love and they don't want anyone breaking that delusion.
It really was the worse experience I have ever had being in a so called paranormal place. The people who are there have barely any knowledge much less when you say some thing (especially after years of research and encounters) they tell your wrong.
I don't know what you told them to get that response but I am not surprised. If they are protecting their delusion that's exactly how they would respond. They kicked me out the moment they found out I was a videographer and experienced in the field of research. That was on my third line! They didn't want me talking to anyone in their chat group from that moment on. Their excuse was that I was trying to exploit their chat members as if I needed them to tell me anything critical to the field. Like they had secrets they didn't want outsiders to know. I realized they were hiding something and had something going on there they didn't want everyone else to become aware of. This is exactly how someone with a mental illness would respond if they were trying to protect their delusion. You lasted in there much longer than most people so you should be very aware of what they are doing in that group.
I felt as though after 15 years of study and in the field I knew what I was talking about. I knew every one's opinions. One girl entered the chat room scared for what was going on in her home. I tried to calm her down with a simple "interview "and layout of what was going on. I tried to tell her to calm down because her fear was feeding the situation and I seen in most cases that the paranormal world knows this and "feeds" off of it.
You are exactly right, there are spirits who feed on fear and do their best to intimidate people. Some of them are angry ghosts and some of them are non human spirits. When a person is afraid they give off energy and some spirits can feed upon that energy and suck the life right out of a person.
Man did I get a room for of her "followers" telling me that was bullshit and that I had no clue what I was talking about. It was so bad I had to leave. I felt as though I was standing on stage getting quantities of fruit thrown at me for trying to help defuse the situation. I was flabbergasted that my own 15 years of research went down the drain all because they felt I was wrong. Shame really. Like I said so very glad I am no longer there. They feel they have all the right answers and when some one comes in with there own theories with profound study and field work you're looked upon as the ugly duckling.
Thank you once again and Take Care,
Rebecca
If they don't think there are spirits who can feed upon fear they are delusional in that respect to. They need to find out there are spirits who create their delusions who feed upon those delusions as well. That is why they are the way they are and why anyone who knows anything about spirits knows there's something serious wrong with ghostchatter.com people.
Sometimes the person who's hallucinating is really seeing the fabric beyond the veil of what we like to call reality. Bryon Smith
No mater how much you care or what you say about it there will always be someone out there who will do their best to make you feel bad about it. (Bryon Smith- - After being bashed on another popular ghost chat area for saying I'm sympathetic toward those with mental illnesses and mental disorders. There are people who should be kicked out of some chat areas but they seldom ever are. The only thing they are there for is to look for arguments and to find fault with anyone they can. What they accomplish is they chase away people who are truly interested in the paranormal. They chase away people who truly need help with the paranormal. They chase away people who are experienced investigating the paranormal, people who really could be some help and an asset to the chat or forum area. Sadly this happened on a site I had intended to frequent this year during our paranormal investigations. I won't be going back. I find it ironic and funny one of those bashers goes by the handle of "Mad Cow" and one of them said "Hitler may have been crazy but that's not why he killed all those people." Oh no, he was just a genocidal mad man. That's not why he murdered hundreds of thousands of people and tried to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth.(Can you believe they insinuated that?) He was mentally ill. He was psychologically disturbed. He was dangerous. He wasn't diagnosed. He didn't get help and he caused a war that cost many thousands of lives. It's clear these psychologically troubled souls do not want me in those forums and the forum managers don't really care how their visitors are treated. I had dreams about them, dreams that told me it was not a place for me. Dreams that showed me what these heckler/bashers were really like. These are posted on my dream website on examples page two. I also learned that people who just don't care are not bashed or harassed by these people. Just say "I don't give a crap, I hate them" and your better off than someone who cares. This is what these people and these things teach us. Is that the lessons they should be teaching people? I will not mention this website's name because I wish them the best. They have good potential. I will say this is a site I've recommended on my site, but if the harassment doesn't stop on that site I will remove my link to that site from my sites.)
